Tuesday, August 3, 2010
Pamana
One of the root causes of misunderstandings among children of deceased parents
involves MANA.
"Hatian" normally cause frictions among brothers and sisters.
why? some heirs would feel that "equal share" does not necessarily result in,well, equal shares!
One of the well known cases is that of Atty. Potenciano.
(which we will just leave it for you to do a research)
Settlement of estate ( left by the deceased) is either thru judicial proceedings, with respect to a WILL, or thru Extra-Judicial Settlement, when the deceased left
no will.
Judicial settlement is quite expensive,thus, the normal route is Extra-judicial Settlement of Estate where heirs agree among themselves who gets what.
We often see in Filipino films about a father "disinheriting" an heir.
not true. your parents cant just do away with your share easily.
Art. 887. The following are compulsory heirs:
(1) Legitimate children ;
(2) In default of the foregoing, legitimate parents;
(3) The widow or widower;
(4) Acknowledged natural children, and natural children by legal fiction;
(5) Other illegitimate children referred to in Article 287.
Disinherit an heir? here's the provision:
Art. 916. Disinheritance can be effected only through a will wherein the legal cause therefor shall be specified ( enumerated under Art. 919)
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markangX ulit banker...
ReplyDeleteif i am one of the compulsory heirs, and everybody wants to sell the property pero ako ayoko, (7 kami lahat). kaya ko bang pigilan mag-isa yung sale or may way pa rin sila para maibenta yung property?
TIA banker
Two things :
ReplyDelete1. There can be NO extra-judicial settlement if one of the heirs refuses to sign.
2. If there is settlement already, all individual heirs can now sell their respective shares.
HOWEVER, it is still subject to a two-year lien
kasi puede pa mag-habol ang creditors or other heirs who might have been deprived of their rightful shares e.g. illegitimate children.
( Rule 74 of the Rules of Court)
banker hello,
ReplyDeleteask lng po.my mother died in an accident 2002 and now meron kaming misundertanding ng papa and brother ko with regard sa kinakasama ko ngaun.
i am renting a house mlapit lng din sa amin.nobody is living in our house right now because ung papa ko may iba na rin kinakasama and my brother is in abroad.i am not yet married but has 2 kids.
wla pa kaming documento na amin tlaga ung house and lot kasi common pa un, can my father disinherit me?do i have the right to claim that i also own that house?can my father opt to take his share and give it to his brother when the lot will be divided?
pls enlightened me again banker.
as the article states above, you cannot be "disinherited" because you are a "compulsory heir" except if you try to kill your father or brother or any acts under Art.919
ReplyDeletegud pm po banker, namatay ang sister ko jan2010 sa japan may asawa po sya hapon..kinuha po nung hapon yung insurance ng ate ko sa japan at di na po nagpakita pero may property po ang ate ko dito ang tanong ko po:
ReplyDelete1. nakalagay po sa title ng house and lot single si ate..
2. may 2 po sya anak sa una at sa pangalawang nakasama nya hindi sila kinasal pero ang gamit ng mga anak ng ate ko na surname sa mga tatay nila
3. yun pong tunay na kapatid ng ate ko nagtatanong kung maykarapatan po ba sila..(half sister po kami)kaya po sila nagkainteres dahil sila po ang dahilan kung bakit nagkabahaysi ate ko at ang mga anak ng ate ko..yung isang adik, yung isa naman lapastangang anak na naging dahilan din kung bakit nadali ang buhay ni ate.
4. wala din pong death certificate si ate dahil sa japan nga po namatay, ayaw asikasuhin nung hapon
sana po matulungan nyo kami sa problema na ito..nakakaaawa ang bahay ng ate ko pinaghirapan nya, ni hindi man lang nakatikim ng sarap sa buhay puro problema ibinigay ng mga anak tapos ngayon nagmamadaling mabenta. salamat po.
mga anak tapos nagmamadaling mabenta.
ReplyDeleteHinde puede mai-benta ang property ng isang patay na, di ba? kaya, kailangan ng "Extra-judicial Settlement of Estate" ng mga heirs muna.
Ang taning "heirs" niya ay yung mga anak lamang.
You can ask the assistance of Phil. Embassy sa death certificate ( saan pala nilibing? )
Hi Banker,
ReplyDeleteI need advise po in buying agricultural land – wala po kasi ako idea sa kalakaran ng buying and selling of real properties…
May ino-offer po kc ung tita ko, gusto daw po nya ibenta ung 1/3 nung land property nya which is actually part lang po ng isang malaking property. Ang kaso po ni hindi pa nakapangalan sa kanya ung PARTE nya na gusto nya hatiin para ibenta sa kin. Ano po ang pwede ko gawin para may papel po ako na katibayan na ibinenta/ibebenta nya sa kin ung portion ng land kahit na hindi pa nakapangalan sa kanya?
parent title (agricultural land) - named after the great grand parent (already deceased)
Compulsory heirs:
5 children
3 grandchildren (in place of their father already dead)
kailangan muna ng "Extra-judicial Settlement of Estate" so that you can identify which area and the legitimate owner of the property to be sold.
ReplyDeletewithout that, your transaction will be NULL AND VOID from the very beginning.
hi banker, sorry po dito ko po pla dapat ipost at hindi dun sa kabila... dalawa na lang magkapatid si tito j at tita m. ibig sabihin 50-50 sila sa property na naiwan ng parents (both dead n) nla since wala naman last will. si tita m,walang asawat anak. c tito j, may asawat anak. pag dead na si tita m, san po mapupunta yung properties nya if wla sya last will?compulsary heir ba nya si tito j? if merun sya last will, 100% ba pwede nya dispose o ilang portion lang ang pwede nya ibigay s khit kanino? sana maliwanagan po ninyo ako. thank you.
ReplyDelete-beng
kung walang compulsory heir si tita, her properties will go to his brother, being the sole heir.
ReplyDeleteshe can freely dispose her assets, without waiting for a last will. magastos ito - magkakaroon pa ng probate sa court. i-benta na lang niya or donate while she is still alive if she does not want her brother to inherit it.
maraming salamat po banker. -beng
ReplyDeleteGood article. I'm dealing with many of these issues as well..
ReplyDeleteMagandang araw po!
ReplyDeleteAno pong procedure sa pagbenta ng share?
Mauna po bang ipa-annotate sa TCT ang Extra Judicial Settlement and Partition? Or puwede na pong magbenta ng share kahit hindi pa na-annotate?
Kasi po yung 3 heir nagbenta na (with partial payment from buyer) ng share nila w/o signing first in Extra Judicial Settlement and Partition. So ngayon minamadali kami na pumirma sa Extra Judicial Settlement and Partition para daw ma-process na rin ang Deed of Sale at nang mabayaran na sila ng buyer in full.
Please advise, thank you po and God Bless
what if you don't agree with the settlement itself?
Deletelike - if you have 3 hectares and you get only 100 sq.mt.?
it pays to be prudent
Hi Banker!
DeleteEverybody agreed na po sa settlement and partition, each heir has equal share of lot. And yung sukat po ng share ng mga nagbenta is same naman po sa nakasulat sa Extra Judicial Settlement and Partition. Nagbase po sila sa survey na pinagawa ng isa pang heir (deceased).
so what's your problem?
DeleteMauna po bang ipa-annotate sa TCT ang Extra Judicial Settlement and Partition? Or puwede na pong magbenta ng share kahit hindi pa na-annotate?
Deletethe best thing is to have individual titles for each heirs first, then execute a Deed of Sale.
Deleteno need to annotate.
Thank you Banker
Delete1.Compulsory heirs are lola’s children (2)
ReplyDelete2.In case of death of any of lola’s child, children of lola’s deceased child takes over regardless of number but only 1 share
3.The Sale is null and void ab initio unless cured by subsequent document because there is no settlement of estate yet.
4. Lola cannot bequest the whole property to one child only because there are other compulsory heirs unless judicially settled in court.
5.Any improvements should be settled/compromised only.
Thank you Banker.
ReplyDeleteMay I ask what is the purpose of the Quitclaim of child "A"?
a formal renunciation or relinquishing of a claim.
ReplyDeletea waiver of rights
if child "A" has a deed of waiver and quitclaim, does this mean po that child "A" will be the one na to decide for the pamana?
ReplyDeletea LEGITIME cannot be waived.
Deleteunless all compulsory heirs agree